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# Killchain Radio — S01E07 ## Cyber Burnout: Keeping the Faith in an AI-Driven Future **Hosts: Len Noe & Bryon Hochkins | Special Guest: Derek Scheller Jr.** Cybersecurity has always been a high-pressure profession. The threats never stop, the technology never stops changing, and the people defending our systems are expected to somehow keep pace. Now add AI. In **Season 1, Episode 7 of Killchain Radio**, Len Noe and Bryon Hochkins sit down with special guest **Derek Scheller Jr. — cybersecurity leader, veteran, founder of Cyber Warrior Studios, host of Security Happy Hour, and longtime advocate for mental health in the cybersecurity community** — for a conversation about something our industry doesn't talk about nearly enough: **burnout**. As artificial intelligence transforms cybersecurity, we're being told that everything is about to become faster, smarter, and more automated. But behind every SOC dashboard, penetration test, incident response call, vulnerability report, and AI prompt is still a human being. And humans have limits. What happens when the people responsible for defending our digital world are exhausted? What happens when keeping up with the latest technology becomes a never-ending race? And what happens to your sense of purpose when AI can suddenly perform tasks that took you years to learn? Derek has spoken openly about burnout, mental health, purpose, and the pressures cybersecurity professionals face — making this conversation about much more than simply surviving another difficult week at work. Len, Bryon, and Derek dig into **cyber burnout, career fatigue, mental health, imposter syndrome, the pressure to constantly learn, and the fear that AI could make some of today's skills — or even jobs — obsolete.** But this episode isn't about surrendering to the machines. It's about **keeping the faith**. Faith in your skills. Faith in your community. Faith in your ability to adapt. And most importantly, faith that the human element still matters in an increasingly AI-driven world. Because AI may change the tools. It may change the attacks. It may even change what it means to work in cybersecurity. **But the future still needs humans willing to fight for it.** Join **Len Noe, Bryon Hochkins, and Derek Scheller Jr.** for an open conversation about burnout, resilience, purpose, AI, and finding a reason to keep moving forward when the industry — and the world around it — refuses to slow down. **This is Killchain Radio.** *The technology changes. The threats evolve. The human element remains.*